Curse

Jetdoc · Mar 14, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

[wiki]Dragon Slash[/wiki] / [wiki]Brawling Headbutt[/wiki] / [wiki]steelfang slash[/wiki] / [wiki]flail[/wiki] / [wiki]enraging charge[/wiki] / "Save Yourselves!" / [wiki]"For Great Justice!"[/wiki] / [wiki]enduring harmony[/wiki]

"SY!" can be Echoed with the elite [wiki]Echo[/wiki], as Echo copies any skill - however, it's much, much worse than DSlash, which charges it and deals hefty damage.

Any room in here for Lion's Comfort, now that it has an adrenaline gain?

Yichi · Mar 14, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Any room in here for Lion's Comfort, now that it has an adrenaline gain?

no...

12 chars

JDRyder · Mar 14, 2008, 07:02 PM // 19:02

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

I agree, attacking with a warrior sucks

hope thats a joke D:

Magikarp · Mar 14, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Any room in here for Lion's Comfort, now that it has an adrenaline gain?

not unless you like being bad.

Jetdoc · Mar 14, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Meh...tried to think outside the box given the first three heavy ardenaline skills...figured there might be a quicker way to get to Dragon Slash, which is the key skill in this build.

Savio · Mar 14, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37

You have Enraging Charge and FGJ, which instantly charges Brawling Headbutt and Steelfang Slash. How much quicker can you get?

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 14, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37

I don't use Steelfang Slash, I have IAS in that slot. I give Koss Steefang Slash, but I'm not sure if he uses it correctly.

Savio · Mar 14, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Why would you not have both Steelfang and an IAS?

Stormlord Alex · Mar 14, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Any room in here for Lion's Comfort, now that it has an adrenaline gain?

Not really, tbh - it's nowhere near as good as any of the other skills for gaining adrenaline. Enraging + "FGJ!" right off is enough adrenaline to open up with Brawling and Steelfang, and from there it's lulz.
The only thing Lion's does that the rest don't is a slight heal - and if you need a heal, it'll be because your team has faltered, in which case a Res Sig or DPSig would be of more use.

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 14, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Savio

Why would you not have both Steelfang and an IAS?

Oops-I didn't see Flail in that build--My bad.

I haven't attained Enraging Charge, or Flail yet, so my build is a little off.

[skill]dragon slash[/skill] [wiki]Brawling Headbutt[/wiki] [wiki]Save Yourselves![/wiki] [skill]tiger stance[/skill] [skill]rush[/skill] [skill]enduring harmony[/skill] [wiki]For Great Justice![/wiki] Rez

With this build, after I use Brawling Headbutt, I don't have the adrenaline needed to attack with Steelfang Slash while the enemy is still knocked down.

Savio · Mar 14, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

You charge up both Brawling Headbutt and Steelfang Slash, then use Brawling Headbutt, hit once, then use Steelfang Slash. That should charge Dragon Slash, which will charge Brawling and Steelfang again.

Without Flail, the best IASes are Frenzy or Flurry. I don't see why you'd want Rush.

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 14, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

The enemy is usually standing by the time I get the extra hit in to recharge Steelfang Slash. I'll make sure I'm wearing stonefist gauntlets-this may be the problem.

I know Tiger Stance's weakness's, if I ever get really good at GW, I'll switch to Frenzy. I'm just playing for fun and my teammates don't care what sort of IAS I use. Most probably don't know what IAS stands for

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Magikarp · Mar 15, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

The enemy is usually standing by the time I get the extra hit in to recharge Steelfang Slash. I'll make sure I'm wearing stonefist gauntlets-this may be the problem.

I know Tiger Stance's weakness's, if I ever get really good at GW, I'll switch to Frenzy. I'm just playing for fun and my teammates don't care what sort of IAS I use. Most probably don't know what IAS stands for

stonefist makes steelfang win.

Yichi · Mar 15, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

I'll make sure I'm wearing stonefist gauntlets-this may be the problem.

Any warrior that has a form of kd on their bar should already be wearing stonefists. its like shooting fish in a barrel, its just a win-win situation.

blue.rellik · Mar 15, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

hope thats a joke D:

im not jokin. warrors sux at killin

eles r best

Magikarp · Mar 15, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

im not jokin. warrors sux at killin

eles r best

please dont post for a while.

blue.rellik · Mar 15, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

please dont post for a while.

no u r wrong. plz leave k?

Grammar · Mar 17, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

So do you guys recommend both Enduring Harmony AND Steelfang Slash in a DS build? Because to me they seem a bit redundant in their purpose.

If you think about it, they're both there to increase DS spam (which in turn leads to more SY! and Brawling Headbutt), they just do it in different ways.
Steelfang does it by giving you the DS->Headbutt->Steelfang combo to use during FGJ's 25 second downtime. Enduring Harmony does it by reducing FGJ's downtime to 15 seconds.
But taking both doesn't make much sense to me because if you use Enduring Harmony then you'd only need Steelfang for 15 seconds out of 45, meaning it just sits there for 30 seconds wasting space. Is that really worth the slot?

I always bring one or the other, obviously, but I just can't justify bringing both at the expense of all the other stuff I wish I could cram into that last slot (Mending Touch, a rez, a third PvE skills such as "I Am Unstoppable!", etc.)

Stormlord Alex · Mar 17, 2008, 04:25 AM // 04:25

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Originally Posted by Grammar

So do you guys recommend both Enduring Harmony AND Steelfang Slash in a DS build?

'meh'
I don't even run "FGJ!" in my own DSlash build...

DSlash / Headbutt / Steelfang / Disarm / "SY!" / Flail (... Frenzy

) / Rush / DPSig

The real 'strength' of EH is that it gives you another 50% on top of "FGJ!" of total godmode - without it "FGJ!" on, you need to constantly go through DSlash/Headbutt/Steelfang to keep "SY!" up all the time. If something goes awry, that may not happen.

However, with "FGJ!" up, shit can happen and you can still keep the team invincible with "SY!" - adding Enduring on to this essentially gives you 50% longer to break the key targets of a mob so that perma-"SY!" is no longer as crucial.
If that made sense.... it's half 4 in the morning for some of us

Antithesis · Mar 17, 2008, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

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Guild Wars. $5 plx, a cookie will do.

I usually drop Steelfang for Pain Inverter - makes short work of Eles, Rangers, bosses etc. Way too good compared to Steelfang for me to leave out. You can usually cycle between D-Slash, Brawling Headbutt and SY without Steelfang, so it feels a bit out of place and wasted on my bar.